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he’s getting flashbacks
Yoda: Dooku, unkind that was. If nothing good to say have you, say anything, do not.
Dooku: Of course, Master. My humblest apologies.
Dooku: Qui-Gon, you must be careful of what you say to others.
Qui-Gon: Of course. I’m sorry master, I don’t know what came over me.
Qui-Gon: Be mindful of what you say, Obi-Wan. You must strive to be kind, and not cruel.
Obi-Wan: Yes, Master. Sorry, Master.
Obi-Wan: Anakin! You should be ashamed of yourself. Do not speak again until we leave.
Anakin: But- (death glare from Obi-Wan) Fine. Sorry, Master
Anakin: AHSOKA
Ahsoka: FUCK YOU
One of the discourses I hate the most in Star Wars fandom is the "Anakin wouldn't fall to the Dark Side if Qui-Gon trained him"
He absolutely WOULD, and I wouldn't be surprised at all if he falled EARLY.
If we consider the Legends version of Qui-Gon Anakin would be full dark side at 19. We are talking about the man who left his 14 years old Padawan in a WAR ZONE, alone. So, yeah. He was really a jerk in Legends.
But I do know that any of this is canon, so, ok, let's look at canon Qui-Gon. Was he a bad person? Not, nothing indicates such. Was he a good teacher? Well... Not quite.
Bear with me, ok? I understand that Obi-Wan was indeed ready to be a Knight in TPM. But early in the movie, Qui-Gon leads to believe that HE doesn't think so, saying Obi-Wan still has much to learn. And then, Anakin shows up, Qui-Gon gets invested in the whole "Chosen One" thing and promptly says infront of the Council that he'll take him as his student. Yes, I am aware that he then explains that even though Obi-Wan has still much to learn, he has nothing else to teach him. But think for a minute. How would that look like to Obi-Wan? He didn't have this conversation earlier, explaining what he would do. It would be totally understandable to feel like a second thought in his master's head. Now think about Anakin Skywalker, known to be a jealous and insecure person, in a situation like that. Don't you think he would feel rejected, alienated?
Then we go to the Extend Universe and things get worse. In the Padawan novel, in which Obi-Wan is 16 and struggling with self-worth, he mentions that his master, although calm, is very hard to read. He barely knows when he is doing something that Qui-Gon approves or not. Obi-Wan is constantly criticised in this fandom for being overcritical with Anakin (which I don't fully agree because Anakin was very hard to deal as a teen), but he also praises him a lot when he gets things right, and that's canon. Now imagine Anakin in this situation. He would go insane. Still in the same novel, it's stated that at the time Obi-Wan was 16, Qui-Gon still hadn't move past the basic forms of lightsaber with him, and they basically only did meditation. Now, I don't think that's a bad thing as a Master. But just imagine Anakin Skywalker, the "it's all Obi-Wan fault, he's jealous, he's holding me back" if he had that guy as a Master. Do you really think his relationship with Qui-Gon would be better than his with Obi-Wan? Yes, Anakin and Obi-Wan fought a lot, but they were close. Qui-Gon would be distant, and that is just fertile ground to Palpatine manipulation.
Chapters: 1/1 Fandom: Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace Rating: Explicit Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply Relationships: Qui-Gon Jinn/Obi-Wan Kenobi Characters: Qui-Gon Jinn, Obi-Wan Kenobi Additional Tags: First Time Summary:
Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan take a trip together after the duel on Naboo.
Returning to my first boys, feeling a bit like I’m getting my writing mojo back... it’s a good feeling.
I LOVE THESE TWO.
2022 OBI-WAN APPRECIATION WEEK ↳ DAY 2: FAVORITE MOVIE MOMENT - THE FIRST TIME WE LAID EYES ON A YOUNG OBI-WAN KENOBI AND IT CHANGED EVERYTHING
Chapters: 1/9 Fandom: Star Wars Prequel Trilogy, Star Wars: The Phantom Menace Rating: Explicit Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply Relationships: Qui-Gon Jinn/Obi-Wan Kenobi, Padmé Amidala/Anakin Skywalker, Background Pairing - Relationship, Shmi Skywalker/OC, referenced pairing Characters: Qui-Gon Jinn, Obi-Wan Kenobi, Yoda (Star Wars), C-3PO (Star Wars), Anakin Skywalker, Shmi Skywalker, R2-D2 (Star Wars), Mace Windu, Padmé Amidala, Bruck Chun, Lando Calrissian Additional Tags: Slow Burn, Alternate Universe - Modern Setting, Alternate Universe - College/University, First Kiss, First Time, Explicit Sexual Content, Daddy Kink, Canonical Age Difference, Epistolary, Party Like It's 1999, Don't copy to another site Summary:
A diplomat chances across an orphan and decides to sponsor him to attend college in America, changing both of their lives as both of them try to ignore their growing attraction to each other.
Based somewhat on the 1912 novel by Jean Webster, but more specifically as a fusion with the 1955 movie starring Fred Astaire and Leslie Caron.
Master and Apprentice
Love this duo <3
I love Self Forefilling Prophecies.
“The quote is simple enough, it’s Qui-Gon’s defense of Anakin after Obi-Wan insists that he and the entire Council can see that Anakin is dangerous.
‘His fate is uncertain. He’s not dangerous.’
And it’s true, Anakin wasn’t dangerous, not at this point. Ani was a relatively happy little boy who was expressive, emotive, and unerringly kind, who had been raised to think intelligently for himself and problem-solve along the way. But the things that made him a good person in normal circumstances were the very things that turned the Jedi Order against him. The Jedi would need to take everything that was /Ani/ away and instill their own doctrines, beliefs, and ways of seeing the galaxy to make him one of them, but at his advanced age, Anakin’s personality was likely setting into place. They wouldn’t be able to fully overcome his own instincts and opinions – he wasn’t a baby or a toddler who they could teach or force to think how they chose – therefore he was /dangerous/, he was other, and they immediately treated him as such.
Instead of welcoming him with acceptance and understanding or even compassion, the council immediately set themselves apart from Anakin and make it clear – to a child who had just escaped enslavement and had helped two of their own order – that he was not welcome in their company because he was going down the dark side path simply because he admitted to feeling fear. …In an entirely new place with strangers who are testing him left, right, and center, far away from the only source of love and security he’s ever know, it’s no wonder Ani is afraid. The Jedi use a little boy’s love of his mother to make him unworthy of their time and consideration, they twist love into a weakness and call themselves the better for it.
…Qui-Gon was right. Anakin wasn’t dangerous until the Jedi made him so. The Jedi created their own destruction and it eventually cost them everything. I think this is a theme that often goes overlooked because it’s the ‘good-guys’ doing the wrong things and we like to turn a blind eye to that sort of thing, but it bears noting that the same thing happens again in the sequel trilogy. Lessons are not being learned here. Ben Solo struggled with the darkness inside himself all his life, but it was Luke – a Jedi – who sealed his fate and the galaxy’s by deciding for everyone that his nephew was /dangerous/ and needed to be dealt with. Another great evil is born because of the judgement of the peace-keeping righteous. And it’s just as Rey says, Luke created Kylo Ren, the same way the Council created Darth Vader, and it began here in The Phantom Menace.”
—The Phantom Menace: Judgement and Consequence
(via whimsicalmutterings.wordpress.com)
One thing at the end of the Acolyte that puzzled me at first was the fact Vernestra and her Jedi team gave Sol a Viking burial on Brendok after they had retrieved the bodies of the murdered Jedi on Khofar for burial.
We see the same in Tales of the Jedi with the murdered Jedi Master.
Then I realized that it was a cover up.
Vernestra told the Senate Committee that Sol had taken his own life. If she had taken Sol’s body back to Coruscant for burial then there would have been an official autopsy and it would have revealed that he couldn’t have taken his own life and Vernestra couldn’t lie about the manner of his death.
Burning his body on a pond/lake would make it virtually impossible to retrieve any bones that hadn’t been destroyed in the fire and reveal the truth.
I’m reminded of the book Clone Wars: Wild Space where Padme and Obi-Wan admit to Bail Organa that they have known about the Sith being back for ten years and that every one who saw Maul on Naboo was sworn to secrecy to prevent panic.
Qui-Gon’s body being burned on Naboo helps solidify the idea of a cover up as it prevents too many people seeing that Qui-Gon has an obvious lightsaber injury to his gut.
Before Qui-Gon Jinn died, he used Ataru and had passed down his mastery to his Padawan, Obi-Wan Kenobi.
Ataru which relies on acrobatics, offense, quick movements, and unpredictability. Ataru which lacks defense, which Qui-Gon Jinn does using.
After Naboo, Obi-Wan Kenobi switches from the lightsaber form Ataru to Soresu.
Soresu is the Endurance form. It is an unpopular form amongst younglings because it is pure defense. They don’t understand how they can win using it. They’re right. You can’t win using Soresu, that’s not why it was made.
It is the form of survival, not winning. It is meant for the user to endure suffering, endless suffering and still stand. A Soresu master will never be struck down for lack of defense.
Obi-Wan Kenobi refuses to leave his Padawan masterless.
Watching the generational trauma be passed down through Dooku, Qui-Gon Jinn, Obi-Wan, Anakin, Ashoka, and Luke is so heartbreaking. Every dysfunction in one relationship can be traced by to the earlier one.
Qui-Gon Jinn apologist not in that I defend him but in that I’m always apologizing for his shit
@pscentral event 18 — adaptations
The Phantom Menace by Terry Brooks
Wiping tears at 11am as we speak
I'm sorry, but to me the peak of on screen male-to-male intimacy was accomplished by Liam Neeson and Ewan McGregor in The Phantom Menace.
The way Obi-Wan RUSHES to Qui-Gon's side the EXACT SECOND he is sure Darth Maul ain't coming out of that melting pit. The way he FOLDS himself around his dying mentor.
The beard touch.
It's not captioned in this gif, but while this is happening, Qui-Gon whispers to him "No. It's too late." Trying to keep down any fear of hurting him Obi-Wan has, trying to squash any feelings of resentment or anger that the young man would be pointing inward just then for not being fast enough, not being good enough. Because that would lead him to the darkness.
I am already gone, please let me see your face free of anguish for my last moments.
The way Obi-Wan's hand moves over Qui-Gon's chest, feeling for his heartbeat, maybe trying to coax the living force into keeping Qui-Gon alive JUST LONG ENOUGH so that he can drag him into the palace and to a bacta tank.
And then when the perspective shifts to show us Qui-Gon?
The little caress on Obi-Wan's cheek? Pretty much the only evidence we have up until the cut away that this poor kid just watched his father figure/mentor/brother-in-arms/constant companion/comrade/teacher get stabbed and is either very close to or already starting to bawl his eyes out? The way his voice is just so soft (probably because he was stabbed through the diaphragm) as he imparts his dying wish? Him basically begging Obi-Wan to remember what he told him in the swamps, that he will be a great Jedi and is wiser than Qui-Gon himself? That he should believe in himself?!
The last breath? The closing of the eyes? Obi-Wan only being able to nod because if he says anything he WILL LOOSE IT. Him resting the bridge of his nose on Qui-Gon's as his best friend becomes one with the Force?
The way Obi-Wan cradles his head?
And then that last pan away, when we see what is left of his resolve from the moment just shatter and his shoulders shake and he crumples against the body in his arms?
Yea... No...
These two? Nothing is ever going to beat this moment for me. It's so sad but just so well acted.
We did not deserve this performance in 1999.
We do not deserve this performance NOW.
Obi-Wan needs a hug. He needed encouragement all throughout his dang life. I have to think that even though Qui-Gon was a thick headed idiot while alive he really got to see just how much it hurt Obi-Wan during his force ghost years.
Will he have been able to reach Obi-Wan and make things better? Maybe the OBI-WAN KENOBI series will finally answer that question.
May or may mot start dumping art here🙃