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So lately I’ve been seeing a lot of posts asking people to stop trying to make Odysseus look nice in their works cuz he’s a “messed-up person in the mythology”. Your opinion is valid however I have but one thing to point out:

You want to know who started all this? Who started to “make Odysseus look nice” in the first place?

It’s Homer. It’s nobody else but Homer himself.

A non-Homeric Odysseus would try to murder people out of his own interests. He’d murder Palamedes without remorse (and we’d be cheering over this but it’s a murder after all), he’d attempt to murder Diomedes just to get the Palladium himself, he’d volunteer to kill Astyanax…meanwhile you wouldn’t find any mention of either Palamedes or Nauplius in Homer’s poems, neither did he mention anything abt the Palladium heist (and Diomedes necessity did not happen until Conon’s version), the death of Astyanax, the distribution of war prizes, etc. And all the details in the Odyssey seemed to deny the existence of Nauplius’s vengeance at all, so Odysseus would not take any of the blame.

A non-Homeric Odysseus would be depicted as “cruel, treacherous”, meanwhile in book 10 of the Iliad Odysseus was not mentioned to have killed anyone during the marauding, neither did he promise Dolan anything at all. The negative interpretations are denied by these details subtly put by Homer.

A non-Homeric Odysseus would be widely known as a “coward” for only shooting arrows from afar. But Homer gave him a spear and had him absolutely slaying in both the Iliad and the Odyssey. That part of Ajax’s speech was invalid already.

Most importantly—a non-Homeric Odysseus would be having kids everywhere else, and the loyalty to his own wife as seen in the Odyssey is no where to be found. Meanwhile his lineage was a single-son line made by Zeus in the Odyssey, and his love for Penelope was one of his main drives, especially seen in book 5 of the Odyssey. He loved his family as a loving parent—something you don’t get to see in most of the non-Homeric writings—for most of the time they followed a different tradition indeed, in which Odysseus wasn’t half as nice as in the Odyssey.

TL;DR: in case you haven’t noticed, the characterization of the Homeric Odysseus was quite different from a non-Homeric version of Odysseus. It’s not that Homer didn’t know of the existence of other versions—he knew them too well, which is why in his version of the story, you don’t get to see any mention of them.

a little something

Some of my drawings.

NO PUEDE SER LOS LUNIS!?

madre, de verdad hicieron de todo.

can i just say i also had someone in the notes of that post talking about percy jackson like 'well how else are children going to get into greek myths' and don't get me wrong percy jackson is a great way to do that but there are. so many other books lkfdhgfdjg

Odysseus with Telemachus: THAT IS OUR GIRL!!!!

Telemachus near: Come on ma! Smack the shit out of them!

Penelope just smacking everyone, making Odysseus roll a tear: she is the best.

You know, most "fans" of Penelope usually aren't fans of Odysseus in solidarity with her. Have fun with your toxic unfaithful ship I guess. ✌

ANON!!! NO!!! ANON! YOU'RE TRYING TO GIRLBOSS HER AND NOT WANTING TO UNDERSTAND WHO AND WHAT PENELOPE WANTS! ANON! ANON! PENELOPE WANTS ODYSSEUS BACK IN HER ARMS!!! SHE MISSES AND LOVES HIM!!! ANON! YOU'RE ACTING LIKE ODYSSEUS HAD ANY CHOICE WITH THE GODDESSES!!! AS THOUGH HE DID NOT WEEP WHILE WITH THE GODDESSES! AS THOUGH HE DID NOT THINK OF PENELOPE EVERY DAY!!! ANON!!! EVEN THEN, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER HE EVEN HAD A CHOICE IN THE FIRST PLACE, PENELOPE CAN MAKE HER OWN CHOICES!!! AND HER CHOICE IS ODYSSEUS!!! ALWAYS WILL BE!!! JUST AS SHE IS HIS CHOICE ALWAYS!!! ANON! NO! THEY ARE LIKEMINDED AND BASICALLY SOULMATES!!! GET YOUR HEAD OUTTA YOUR ASS! ANON!!!

To real, I laughed and cried.

me, facing any minor inconvenience: what if I fake my death?

THANKS SO MUCH!!!!!

Part 1 of big "how to chibi-fy this flower????" guide is here!!! 🥰

part blonde/Reddish highlights but thorougly dark brown.

Caoba muy muy oscuro

mom what do you mean i have hair heterochromia

Not him being beung like sailor catching cod in the north seas! Hahaha

Also love Cti and Eury!

b,,brother and sister,,,

+brother in law (redesigned my eurylochus)

Not you being yeasts mitotic organisms hahaha

Are you and @iroissleepdeprived the same person?

We're the result of a single cell organism that went on partenogenesis

we also share one braincell that we barely use

isn't it? @iroissleepdeprived

bro why do i have this is my gallery

because mierdón is love

mierdón is life

mierdón is the light of this world

the greatest representation of everything that is right and gentle

This gives me life.

Can you draw Telemachus riding on Athena’s shoulders. Please.

of course!

This is a beautiful headcanon,

And...........Hold up, I smell a fic right here.

ctimene and odysseus are to me the mabel and dipper of ancient greece. autolycus is probably their stan

See i can't confirm nor deny as i haven't watched gravity falls, but i'll take your word on this anon

Was this to rile you up?

It was, probably, *let's hunt down some Suitors, shall we?*

You know, most "fans" of Penelope usually aren't fans of Odysseus in solidarity with her. Have fun with your toxic unfaithful ship I guess. ✌

ANON!!! NO!!! ANON! YOU'RE TRYING TO GIRLBOSS HER AND NOT WANTING TO UNDERSTAND WHO AND WHAT PENELOPE WANTS! ANON! ANON! PENELOPE WANTS ODYSSEUS BACK IN HER ARMS!!! SHE MISSES AND LOVES HIM!!! ANON! YOU'RE ACTING LIKE ODYSSEUS HAD ANY CHOICE WITH THE GODDESSES!!! AS THOUGH HE DID NOT WEEP WHILE WITH THE GODDESSES! AS THOUGH HE DID NOT THINK OF PENELOPE EVERY DAY!!! ANON!!! EVEN THEN, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER HE EVEN HAD A CHOICE IN THE FIRST PLACE, PENELOPE CAN MAKE HER OWN CHOICES!!! AND HER CHOICE IS ODYSSEUS!!! ALWAYS WILL BE!!! JUST AS SHE IS HIS CHOICE ALWAYS!!! ANON! NO! THEY ARE LIKEMINDED AND BASICALLY SOULMATES!!! GET YOUR HEAD OUTTA YOUR ASS! ANON!!!

Might do things here

Shiptober (Greek Mythology)

(Sorry a bit late but I just want to make one of these for Epic Cycle and Hadestown and Epic fandom, and a little disclaimer: it’s my version anyway. Also the ships are mainly collected from these two fandoms) (You might not like some of them and that’s okay, just ignore them. I might have forgotten abt some ships so they might not make it to the list and I’m sorry abt that. These are the ones I’ve gathered so far and I don’t think I’ve put any toxic ship here)

Agamnestra (Agamemnon x Clytemnestra)

Catalogue of Ships (aka Iliad book 2 appreciation)

Telestratus (Telemachus x Peisistratus)

OdyMene (Odysseus x Menelaus)

DioSthene (Diomedes x Sthenelus)

Telesicaä (Telemachus x Nausicaä)

Aphrodite x Ares

Hephaestus x Aphrodite

OdyPoli (Odysseus x Polites)

OdyDio (Odysseus x Diomedes)

Perenor (Perimedes x Elpenor)

OdyEury (Odysseus x Eurylochus)

IdoMeri (Idomeneus x Meriones)

Hera x Zeus

Telestratus (I’m biased so)

Patrochilles (Patroclus x Achilles)

Achilochus (Achilles x Antilochus)

Peleus x Thetis

Pyrrhus x Hermione (canon ship anyway)

Perseus x Andromeda

Hyapollo (Hyacinthus x Apollo)

Hectromache (Hector x Andromache)

OdyPen (Odysseus x Penelope)

Laërtes x Anticleia

Menelen (Menelaus x Helen)

Telecaste (Telemachus x Polycaste)

Paris x Oenone (canon ship anyway)

Eurymene (Eurylochus x Ctimene)

Jason x Medea

Hades x Persephone

Orphydice (Orpheus x Eurydice)

( @prompted-wordsmith at thy request)

@perroulisses DUDE!!!!!

someone's making a gilgamesh musical

Oh shit??

He would have thrown himself to the Styx without a question.

We woukd have stayed at The Underworld song, "No Longer you" would have not happened.

What if instead of Odysseus’ mom, Ody saw Penelope and Telemachus in the underworld because were murdered by the suitors, so in thunderbringer instead of his crew, he would choose to sacrifice himself so that he can be with his family again

Pass the bottle

Kaos fans are mad at me for how much I criticized the show’s depiction of Hera, y’all are not fucking ready for how mad I’ll be if Hephaestus and Perseus show up in season 2.

Penelope, Clytemnestra, and Helen :)

GOSH SO CLOSE! LOVE IT! Thanks so much Titi! There is a great lack of dark wine see though

Tag time :D @perroulisses, @tunguszka20, @prompted-wordsmith, @simugeuge, @lyculuscaelus

𝑇ℎ𝑒 𝑟𝑢𝑙𝑒𝑠 𝑎𝑟𝑒 𝑠𝑖𝑚𝑝𝑙𝑒: 𝑔𝑜 𝑡𝑜 𝑝𝑖𝑛𝑡𝑒𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑡, 𝑠𝑒𝑎𝑟𝑐ℎ "𝑦𝑜𝑢𝑟 𝑛𝑎𝑚𝑒 + 𝑐𝑜𝑟𝑒," 𝑝𝑜𝑠𝑡 𝑠𝑖𝑥 𝑝𝑖𝑐𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑒𝑠. 𝑇ℎ𝑒𝑛 𝑡𝑎𝑔 𝑠𝑖𝑥 𝑝𝑒𝑜𝑝𝑙𝑒.

Athena-core was fun to search 😍

I tag @newbornwhumperfly @grizzlie70 @butwhatifyouwrite @sapphoslibrary @wildfaewhump @deluxewhump

I made uquiz to attempt to determine if you would make a good immortal.

I made this template for Epic fanartists!

Feel free to use it if you like❤🥰

Hahaha, I'm just a man/ref and truth

But still thanks! >:D

I adore the painting, it's exquisite! But the text near the picture...I just think is a joke, *hopefully*.

i don’t know why odysseus was so scared of a bunch of women, what an incel (circes island)

😋

Tantalus..........*nope*.

your 12th emoji is how you'll die

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