THANK YOU FOR THE RANT SSAKKSKSK

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Athena looking at Telemachus and seeing young Ody make me emo aaaaahhhh what do you mean she looks at this sunshine boy and regrets everything that took this from Ody??? Looks at Telemachus' light and regrets even more that Ody couldn't keep his ???

AND finally realizing they were besties all along kakskjsjsjsj

"HIS LIGHT POLITIES, HIS HOPE ,HIS CHEERFULNESS, HIS JOY FOR LIFE " HOW DARE YOU PUT POLITIES IN THIS LIST GOOD LORD LAKSKSKJZJSJ

The vocal performances are beautiful indeed, such pretty notes and pretty melodies ajsjszjjsha Athena , a whole ass super powerful god, getting lost in the what-ifs? Making herself feel even worse with the scenarios she can come up with?? GOOD SOUP

I hadn't thought about this but you're so right , our lord and savior Jay saw the gods , humanized only by their flaws, and said "hell no" and gave us gods that feel positive emotions too !!! He gave us an Athena that looks back on her past actions and learns from them !! She CARES!! So much so that babygirl cannot rest knowing her friend is in pain so she *has* to try something, anything, to ease the guilt. Enter Telemachus, our beloved. And god, if I stop and think about it it's impossible not to cry bc "we've grown apart, I don't know where you are or how to help you but here's your son ,the one person you love more than yourself, I'll take care of him, okay? The love that you have for him makes you two so close that it's like I'm helping you, right?" KAKSKJSJS I might be overanalyzing shit but I can't help it , I love family I love friendship I love love akksjsjjs

Telemachus' "Atheeena"?? That was so angelic I'M OBSESSED

Also I love Telemachus giving a goddess life advice , puts it all in perspective, yeah? No matter how powerful or old you are, hearing out someone else's point of view always does you some good.

And I love how he's like " I don't know this dude or how he was like but you're doing an AMAZING job at being my friend so stay my friend okay? Okay" I don't know he's like a little puppy and he doesn't want to be left alone again and and he already likes her so much I'm ... Their friendship is so dear to me

"I got in a fight and I didn't die :))!!!" BABY WHAT DO YOU MEAN?? this absolute angel of a boy was so terrified by the suitors that he was absolutely sure they would kill him and he still tried??? He still fought??? YOU ARE THE BRAVEST BOY AND YOUR FATHER'S PRIDE AND JOY TELEMACHUS

STOP TALKING ABOUT POLITIEEEES

But yeah, uncle polites would have loved the crap out of this sunshine kid who , no matter how shitty is life is right now, finds it in him to believe that everything will be fine and and and *cries*

Athena saying he's good and him being happy and leaning on his new friend kakdksjjsns ( absolutely NO foreshadowing allowed, THIS is the FIRST happy song we've had since open arms and I will NOT let you ruin it for me) ( I'm in denial , as always)

Soooo, we'll be fine analysis?

THANK YOU FOR THE ASK YES

28. We'll Be Fine

"I had a friend before, and he was a lot like you" Aaaaaah, ATHENA, seeing Telemachus and thinking about young Odysseus 🥺

"I helped him fight through war, but he had his demons too" now you see that you pushed him too hard while he was struggling? girlieeee its been 10 yearsss, ALSO SHE IS CALLING ODY HER FRIEND; FINIALLY REALIZINNG HE WAS RIGHT ALL ALONG

"And then we grew apart" one way to rephrase "my goodbye" but fair enugh, THE VOCAL PERFORMANCE THO

"Then his light went dark" AAAAAHHHHH "HIS LIGHT" POLITES, HIS HOPE; HIS CHEERFULNESS; HIS JOY FOR LIFE; HIS MERCIFULLNESS ITS ALL GONEEEEEE

This song is soooo good, in instrumentals and ESPEICALLY The vocal performance of the singers, IM IN LOVE with this

"And so, I thought, maybe, if I made a different call, maybe if I hadn't missed it all",,,,,The "maybe" notes are SO goodddddd how dare they, but yeah, maybe...maybe ....belated insight is better than none at all *cough* Zeus

"Maybe, he'd be fine" MAYBE HE'D BE FINE IS BREAKING ME, maybe he would be hime with you right now, maybe he would not be out there somewhere, still suffering, still trying to get home and loosing hope and faith with every passing day

"Maybe we'd unwind", maybe youd make up, and could become friends again

"Maybe, if I help another soul, maybe, if I helped you reach your goal" Ody is not here rn, but hey, maybe she can help his son instead, Odysseus would want that, and this time, she doesnt make the same mistakes she did with him, this way she can help Ody reach his goal of keeping his family save, in his state, and "make up for her mistakes that way

"Life could be that bright", im rly getting "your light" energy in this saga, its not stated that way, but the energy is in the room and aaaah, yeah, maybe that would help...

"I could sleep at night" NOW THiS is interesting, Jorge does humanize the gods in EPIC even more than they are in the myths, which is interesting! becuase on one hand, what made greek gods so interesting is that they WERE so human, but it tends to mostly be about the negative feelings or their consequences - pride, jealously, lust, anger - because the gods were feared and whorshipped, but here, Jay humanized their positive emotions, if theyre prideful and jealous, why cant they seek friendship too? Also, gods sleep???? fair enough, i suppose they could, or well, Athena doesnt rn IG ISEJGISEg Help soekesgjesgj the fact that shes suffering so mcuh from letting Ody go is painful thooo AND THE CRACK IN HER VOICE WHEN SHE SINGS THAT BREAKS ME

"Athena, I don't know who your friend is" he doesnt even ask for her name SEISEGHSEGO Ig that was in little wolf already but i think its still funny, BUT TELEMACHUS; HIS VOCALS AAAAH, also HE DOESNT KNOWWWW SHE DOesNT TELL HIM THAT SHES TALKING ABOUT HIS FATHERRRRR

"I don't know what he's like" HE USED TO BE JUST LIKE YOU LIL WOLF AAAHs siegjseigj

"but my time with you has been splendid the bеst day of my life", imagine wat his life must be like, stuck in this palace, trying to keep the men satisfied to not hurt him or his mom but also protecting her, and not upsetting them, he'd be on guard 24/7......but she helped him fight back, for once

"'Cause I got in a fight, and I didn't die, I'vе never felt strong before" THE BAR IS SO LOW BOY AAAAHHHH HES SO HAPPY ABOUT THAT; he geniuely thought that if he fought, he'd end up dead, hes scared to death by the suitors and got told he's weak and I GET THAT ID BE TOO, BUT HE SURVIVED! Yayy

"You're my friend, I couldn't ask for more" SHE'S CALLING HER HIS FRIEND GUYS AND HE DOESNT REJECT IT

"And so, I think, maybe, if life wasn't spent as planned maybe, it's time that you lend a hand" TELEMACHUS COMING IN WITH LIFE ADVICE FOR ATHENA AAAAAH

"I don't think he'll mind" YOU'RE SAVING YOUR FATHERS LIFE RN TELEMACHUS AND YOU DONT EVEN KNOW I LOVE YOU AAAAH

"If not his friend, then mine" 😭THE vocaaaaaaaallllls againnn aah the voices

"Maybe, to fall is to learn one way" THE HARMONIES BETWEEN THEM; PLEASEEEEEEEEE, also yes!!!!! learn from your mistakes and carry on!!!

"Maybe, it's all gonna turn out great" HARMONIESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS their voices go together so well, mabye things will be fine?? MAYBE????

"I know we'll be fine, I know it's light you'll find".....i...i dont even know what to say, hes hopefully and cheerful and my sunshine boy and polites would've loved you and AAAAAH 😭😭😭 Imma go cry in a corner now

"You're a good kid" AAAAAAH tears (also Athena being like "gods, youre your fathers kid")

"Thanks :D" HES SO HAPPY ABOUT THE COMPLIMENT PLSSSS ASO THE OFFICAL ANIMATIC THAT HE TRIES TO LEAN ON HER BUT FALLS THROUGH HER BECAUSE SHES TRANSPARENT??? aaaahahhhhhhhhhhhhhh its so funny but i saw someone commenting "i hope its not foreshadowing that he'll try to lean on her while shes not aviable and now I cry a little bit about it.... honestly, most beautiful vocal performance im so in love with this

I know there are a lot of musical call back in this too, but admittely i cant figure them all out myself and i havent watched enough analyses yet from others

This one just might be my favorite song of the saga bc it's so qkkdkdkaksjdj and Telemachus is so kakdkdjsn and ATHENA-

You get the gist

I agree with every mean thing you say about THOSE BITCHES THE SUITORS because HOW FUCKING DARE THEY ATTACK MY CHILD

I don't think you're contradicting yourself bc yeah, he fought back so they are ready to destroy him ( maybe if it had happened earlier things would have been different but it's been twenty years and all their frustration and rage has been piling up so Telemachus is screwed now) they want to rile him up , to see him try to fight them only to be inevitably beaten and remeber he's nothing compared to them BUT they also want to see him cower, run away. I think they would kill him for funsies but seeing him run is probably more fun+ it would make Penelope less mad, so at the very end , after playing with him they do give him the possibility to "run away before you die"

I also love the little wolf nickname bc it's so cute !!! One more thing that ties him to Ody !! AND THESE BITCHES USE IT TO TAUNT HIM!! TO SAY THAT HE WILL NEVER LIVE UP TO HIS FATHERS NAME!! HE WILL ALWAYS BE SMALL AND INSIGNIFICANT!! THEIR PLAYTHING!!!! yeah I'm going to ithaca to punch them all, you coming ?

I don't care about all the taunting and death threats, "I'll teach you all the lessons your daddy never could" IS NEXT LEVEL CRUEL I CAN'T WAIT FOR YOU TO DIE A GRUESOME DEATH YOU BITCH ( he's such good as a villain tho, and his voice??? Kaksksk I'm obsessed with him )

The drop when athena arrives kaksksjsjsj SO GOOD

"need some help?" All sassy and cool and akskksjsn ATHENA THANK THE GODS YOU'RE HERE

And we're so happy to see that after ten years she got a sense of humor !!! You go queen!!

But she is still the calculating strategist we know and love , so when Telemachus goes " I don't know how :(" she doesn't waste time with encouragements and feelings , without missing a beat she tells him what to do bc he knows he can and now he knows too !!

The rhyming with "that is so sick" really is so good he's such a cutie pie!! He's just a kid!!!!

"let's try this again" MAKES ME FERAL AAAAHHH SHE'S NOT ONLY MENTORING AGAIN BUT SHE'S ALSO PUTTING HERSELF OUT THERE!!! MAKING FRIENDS!!! MAKING CONNECTIONS!!!!! we're so proud of you Athena

I'm also obsessed with how Athena just got here and immediately starts insulting these "bullies" ,"dogs" , the kind of "filth" that she has no tolerance for (yes, she's totally thinking of Zeus too) and just, I wish they could hear her and know that even the gods think that they all fucking suck

I LOVE HOW THE LYRICS GET TURNED AROUND , it's such a cool thing every time !!! Show them that you got some bite ?? I am your darkest moment , the monster that always draws near?? Six hundred lives I'll take, six hundred lives I'll break and when I kill you then my pain is over??? GENIUS

EVERYONE'S VOCALS, ATHENA BEING THE BEST MENTOR AND BEST AUNT EVER, "DON'T GO DOWN WITHOUT A FIGHT!" AAAAHHH

He loses the fight but we're all super proud, he still punched that bitch a couple of times and got a new bestie , so it's still kind of a win to me

"go back and cry in your corner , make sure your mother hears " how about YOU GO FUCK YOURSELF

Yeah, he's totally using this to threaten her into marrying someone AS IF SHE WOULD EVER AFTER THIS STUPID STUNT!!! And you're right to wonder bc , what would they even do if she chose? Maybe they have a pact to respect pen's decisions ( and we know how well those pacts work, they never caused any ten years war , nuh-uh )

Telemachus DOES SOUND SO MUCH LIKE YOUNG ODY AMSMKDJS AND HE DOESN'T KNOW!! AMDKSKSKSB OH THE ANGST

*appears from the shadows*

little wolf analysis 😏 ?

LITTLE WOLF ANALYSIS you bet

IVE WAITED SO LONG FOR THIS SONG AND I HAD SUCH HIGH HOPES AND I DIDNT GET DISAPPOINTED AAAAAAAAHAHAHAHJFSJJSSKDKFKDKKF

Okay lets go

26. Little Wolf

THAT BASTARD

"Fight, little wolf, fight, wanna entertain me?" HE IS TAUNTING TELEMACHUS, HE INVADED HIS HOME AND HE ONLY SEES HIM AS A SOURCE OF ENTERTAUNMENT, A MILD BOTHER, HE CAN PLAY WITH UNTIL HES BORED THAT FUCKING DOG AND THE OTHER SUITORS JUST BACK HIM UP AH, but "little wolf"??? Is such a sweet nickname????? Also if the post I saw about Odysseus family history with wolves is true thennnn my HEART ♡♡♡ (also explains the "the pack of wolves is swimming with the sharks now) but they use it such a taunting way, belittling him, gods i wanna fight them too

"Bite, little wolf, bite, let's see how you take this" they are pushing him, just wanting to see what happens when they bother him one to many times, when you strike an animal and wait for it to lash out at you, but instead of taking it seriously for the terror that you cause, you laugh about it because you know its not a real thread to you I HATE THEM (BUT THE GRIT IN ONE OF THE SUITORS VOCALS IM DYING FOR, ALSO ANTINOUS VOICE!!! PERIMEDES!!! AAAH) "lets see how you take this" MAKES ME FERAL dont SAY THAT

"Strike, little wolf, strike, wanna be a man?Then fight, little wolf, fight, little wolf, fight" They WANT him to lash out so badly, they want to see what happens, they see him as a kid, who doesnt belong into the palace, he is the legitimate heir, but he cant take the throne without acckowledging that his father wont come back, but if they do that, his mother has no more excuses to keep off the suitors, also I HATE how they use the "man up" argument, FUCK YOU LEAVE MY BOY ALONE

"You've made your worst mistake here, might be your last one too" AH, BITCH, anyway, so I suppose up until now Telemachus just tried to avoid the suitors at any cost, dont make them upset, stay out of their way, grit your teeth and wait, because your father will be back soon...right? Right?? Greek rules of hospitality and all; they cant send them away, but theyre taking in more space and theyre pushing Telemachus into a corner. But Antinous insulted his mother, he tried to get him to open up her room, that was the first time he talked back, prepared to fight, be like his father, being legendary, even though he has no clue what hes doing; and the suitors know that, they probably saw him grow up, and belittled him almost all his life, they know just how much he is not in any position of power and strength, but he dared to talk back, and that little bit of courtesy they had to leave him alone is gone, Antinous is pissed and he wants to get rid of Telemachus anyway, hes just in his way, so he'll take him down, after having some fun first, FUCK HIM, hes such a bastard

"You'll have run out of bones to break when you and I are through" this dude didnt even need poseidon to tell him that ruthlessness is mercy to become the monster rawr rawr rawr, hes just brutal and ruthless and merciless and hes having FUN

"I'll teach you all the lessons your daddy never could" OUCH? YOU ARE NOT IN ANY ANY ANY ALTERNATIVE UNIVERSE A FATHER REPLACEMENT FOR HIM SO FUCK OFF ANTINOUS LEAVE ODYS BOY ALONE

"This cruel world doesn't give out presents just for being good", fuck you Antinous GREET THE WORLD WITH OPEN ARMS NOT KNIVES

[So Fight, little wolf, fight; Wanna entertain me Bite, little wolf, bite Let's see how you take this Strike, little wolf, strike Wanna be a man? Then fight, little wolf, fight, little wolf, fight] I love the chorus, OBSSESED WITH THE GRIT OF THE ENSAMBLE AH

The TRANSITION INTO THAT NEXT PART IS SO SMOOTH AND GOOD AND CHILLS AND AAAH

"Or die, little wolf, die" THEYRE SO RUTHLESS, THEY WOULD KILL HIM THEY WANT TO KILL HIM THEY AAAAAH BASTARDS (It sounds so good tho) They want to entertain themselves but they dont fuck around, they arent holding back, they dont care if he dies, they'd actually be delighted, fuck them

"Don't you know it's fight or Fly, little wolf, fly" fight or fly, response, he always was doign the fleeing but now this ONE time he choose fight, and they'll make him pay for it to teach him their lesson, he cant back out anymore

"All because you had to, try, little wolf try" all because he dared to step up for his mom bastards

"Run away before you, die, little wolf, die, little wolf, die" i might be contradicting myself in the things im said before, but they want him to run away, scared, like an animal they can hunt for prey, because if he doesnt; they'll fight him and ofc he has no chance against them, hes just a "kid", but that wont stop them from killing him

The music drop into Athenas quick thought Aaaahh

"Need some help?" LES GOOOOOO ATHENA TO THE RESUCE

"What's going on here?" Valid bb, Id be confused too ♡

"Is your plan to stand around? Cause I suggest you fight back" a little sarcasm huh, well at least you got humor >:)

"I don't know how" DO YOU HEAR HOW SCARED HE IS, HES FACING ANTINOUS AKD THE OTHER SUITORS AND THEY JUST KEPT ATTACKING HIM AND HE NEVER GOT THE TRAINING HE DESERVED TO FIGHT BACK aaaaaaah

"Uppercut him, now" u goooooo

(Neat soutscape, here fr)

"Woah, how did I do that? Is time now moving slow?" Again valid, and adorable, u go ! U punched him! You can fight back :D the vocal performance IS SO GOOD

"No, I just made your thoughts quick" ♡ Good mentor

"Woah, that is so sick" the rhyming here its so cuteeeeeeee, hes so exciteddddd HES LIKE ODYSSEUS WHEN THEY FIRST STARTED AAAH

"Alright now, let's try this again" ATHENA MENTOR LETS GOOO

"I've no respect for bullies, Those who impose their will, I've seen plenty enough to truly understand this kind of filth"...Zeus? (Also her vocalllsss aaah)

"Let's teach this dog a lesson In front of all his kind" her calling Antinous and the other suitors dogs that need to be taught a lesson because theyre acting up....(so much more harmless than a wolf) aaaah

"One young wolf has a larger heart than all these men combined" 🥹😭🥹😭🥹

The INSTRUMENTAL RIFF AAH

"Fight, little wolf, fight" SHES ENCOURAGING HIM AND GUIDING HIS ACTIONS NOW AAAH

also AM I HEARI G THIS RIGHT? DOES TELEMACHUS HAVE ODYS INSTRUMENTALS OCCATIONALLY??? PLS??? PLS???

"Show them that you've got some Bite, little wolf, bite" THE LYRICAL GENIUS turning it into encouraging from "bite little wolf" to "show them that you got some bite" as the phrase ITS SO GOOD AAAAAH

'Take advantage now and Strike, little wolf, strike" again guiding his actions!!!! So proudd, Ody would be grateful to her

"Don't go down without a Fight, little wolf, fight, little wolf" dont down without a fight YES

"Get up and fight" Vocal performance. Stunning AH

[Fight, little wolf, fight, Wanna entertain us? (Oh) Bite, little wolf, bite Let's see how you take this (Strike!) Strike, little wolf, strike Wanna be a man? Then (Oh) Fight, little wolf (Fight) (Fight, little wolf) (Fight)] THIS WHOLE SECTION IS SO GOOOOOD ATHENAS VOCAL PERFORMANCE AGAIN IS OUTSTANDING BEAUTIFUL POWERFULL ENCOURAGING the way she reinterpreates the suitors taunting words into encouragement IS SO GOOD I CANT EVEN AAAHHH

...and still Telemachus loses the fight

"Ooh, maybe I pushed you a bit too hard" Athena understanding the full scope of human fragility since never (but shes trying, i give her that)

"Ow" (hat pats) u did good kid, im proud of you

"Go back and cry in your corner" FUCK YOU ANTINOUS, im sure hes so upset that telemachus even dared to fight back, and is just planning his next steps

"Make sure your mother hears" ....fuck you, Antinous, he sends him back to Penelope as a warning "look what we did to your son, we can do worse, its our generosity that we sent him back at all, be grateful, or else we'll do the same to you" the vocal performance thooo

"If she won't choose a man to adorn her We'll bring blood and tears" ruthlessness.....i do wonder what would happen if she had choosen, the other 107 suitors, they seem to be respecting her having the right to choose (probably legal reasons) but eben if she would choose one, what would the others do? Are they just waiting to beat up each other as soon as she'd pick one? Or would they work together? but also MF STAY AWAY FROM MY GIRL DONT U DARE HURT HER OR TELEMACHUS >:) >:) May your blood cover the palace red

THE DROP AGAIN followed to athenas thing, AH THE INSTRUMENTALS ARE SO GOOD

----> telemachus goes back to his room to his balcony, Athena is still at his side

"Tell me, Athena, why you came to my aid" HE DOESNT KNOW HE DOESNT KNOW AAAAAAAH also his vocals ♡♡♡♡♡ HE SOUNDS SO MUCH LIKE YOUNG ODYSSEUS TOO?? AAAH

Andreil cats

no you don't understand all he heard were screams until calypso mentioned polites' phrase and then all he hears is how much longer till your luck runs out and this life is amazing when you greet it with open arms and all he heard were the screams until he thinks of his best friends and now all he can hear are their songs as they tried to guide him away from tragedy in the only ways they knew and it almost hurts worse than the screams because all that blood was on his hands but those two were his friends and they tried and he tried and it wasn't enough because his luck finally ran out-

Ah yes my favorite musical epic , or as I like to call it "the musical that no matter how perfectly you know the songs, each time you listen you'll find something new to cry about"

athena is the goddess of wisdom because when a god suggests playing a game she doesn't immediately accept without knowing what is it